Science sees God

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Topic: Science sees God

03 August 2009


Everyone knows that many great scientists believe in God.

But how can belief that a Supreme Being does exists be based on solid ground?

Well, actually scienstist say that it is literally the solid ground that makes them believe in a Powerful God.

How?

We can arrive at God by two means:

Using pure logic, or by using science.

Here we will consider the latter method: science.

Lets see if modern science can be uses to provide the evidence:

1. Everything that has a beginning has a Cause.
2. Scientists have now shown that Universe had a beginning some 14 billion years ago.
3. Therefore, Universe has a Cause.

This seems to be a very sound argument from scientific observation.

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b00ger :

Congratulations! You have just proved that the Universe had a cause! That’s some shocking news I never heard before.
Sarcasm aside, I believe you forgot 4. That cause is God, which in no way follows from the above.

GAD:

And what is “the cause” of god? If god doesn’t need a cause then neither does the universe.


In the 20th century, the Steady State Thoery of the Universe has been destroyed.

According to this theory the universe was infinite and had always existed.

Hence there was no need of a God.

Today, in the light of modern Physics, only a few stubborn individuals cling on to it.

Science has now shows this theory to be utterly false.

Discoveries by Astronomers assert that Universe is neither infinite nor has it been eternally.

Too bad for straw clutchers.


hannahfriend :

- Most of the posters on this website describe themselves as atheists or agnostics. Every once in a while, someone who believes in God comes on board. Since this is the REASON Project, can I hope that people will be able to post a civil discussion? By responding to the believer with insults, as some of you have, you give the impression that non-believers are louts. Not a very good way to open someone’s mind to another viewpoint, eh?

- I still don’t see how calling people dunderheads, vapid, and lazy can help them see reason.
Honesty, all of us harbor intellectual contradictions we are blind about, especially if we’ve been told some notion is true all our lives by the people we love and trust..

-I’m not sure why you take their disagreement as an “insult.” They disagree with you; you disagree with them. There’s a lot of disagreeing that goes on on this website by design. Your way of looking at the world is more rational, but you’ll not help others to see their irrationality by driving them away. Try to be a teacher. You may say something that will really make them think. Yes, even religious people can change. Several on this site can attest to that.
Hey, when you were a teenager, you probably thought your parents didn’t understand anything important. Now you see their point of view a little better. Change takes time.
My college-age son helped me to see the illogic of many of my previously-held religious ideas. Yeah, he was a philosophy major, so he had the advantage of being trained in rational argument (no fair fight!). We’d talk and talk, and a lot of the time, he’d bring in a totally new perspective. Darn him. I realized at one point the whole basis for my hanging onto my belief was that I wanted to feel loved by God. I thought I needed that to go on. Once I’d dredged that out, I was honest enough to see that that wasn’t a very good argument for the actual existence of God. If he’d called me stupid and intellectually lazy, we would have never gotten to that point.

[ Atheists of Reason Project went off topic after this point.]

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